Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/13/1993 03:43 PM Senate TRA

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                 SENATE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE                               
                         April 13, 1993                                        
                            3:43 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Senator Bert Sharp, Chairman                                                 
  Senator Randy Phillips, Vice Chairman                                        
  Senator Tim Kelly                                                            
  Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                   
  Senator Jay Kerttula                                                         
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator Jay Kerttula                                                         
                                                                               
  OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                        
                                                                               
  Sentor Robin Taylor                                                          
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  CONFIRMATION HEARING:    Bruce  A.  Campbell,  Commissioner,                 
  Department of Transportation and Public Facilities.                          
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-21, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN SHARP called the Senate Transportation Committee to                 
  order at  3:43 p.m.   He  announced that  the  meeting is  a                 
  confirmation  hearing for  Bruce  A. Campbell,  Commissioner                 
  Designee for  the Department  of  Transportation and  Public                 
  Facilities  (DOT/PF).  He asked Mr.  Campbell to come before                 
  the committee and discuss his background.                                    
                                                                               
  BRUCE A. CAMPBELL, Commissioner Designee, DOT/PF,  explained                 
  he came  to Alaska in 1952, and went  to work for the Alaska                 
  Road Commission  doing construction work, etc.,  until 1956.                 
  In 1956, the Bureau of Public  Roads took over the operation                 
  of  the commission  as a  result of  Washington passing  the                 
  Interstate  Act.   He  said  he  was with  the  bureau until                 
  statehood.  Commissioner  Designee Campbell said he  was one                 
  of the first employees to transfer from the Bureau of Public                 
  Roads  to  the  Department  of  Public  Works,  Division  of                 
  Highways.    He  said  he  worked   his  way  up  to  acting                 
  commissioner in 1964.  In 1967, he left state employment and                 
  moved to Fairbanks to work with Burgess Construction Company                 
  where he did a lot of work on the North Slope.  Commissioner                 
  Designee Campbell said  1971, Governor Egan asked  him to be                 
  Commissioner of the Department  of Highways until 1975.   In                 
  1975, he moved  to Anchorage  and was Construction  Manager,                 
  Alaska General Construction for three years.  He then opened                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  his own business  of Campbell  and Associates, a  consulting                 
  engineering practice.  He explained  he did work there until                 
  about 2 years ago  and was semi  retired.  About four  weeks                 
  ago, he was requested to be commissioner of DOT/PF.                          
                                                                               
  Number 074                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asked Commissioner Designee  Campbell                 
  what his observations are of  the current legislature versus                 
  the legislatures he  dealt with in  the past.   COMMISSIONER                 
  DESIGNEE CAMPBELL  said he can't  answer the question  as he                 
  has had very  little contact  with the current  legislature.                 
  He noted the  Senate Transportation  Committee is the  first                 
  committee he has  actually been before.   He said there  are                 
  going to be legislators that are going to like him and there                 
  will be those that won't.  Senator Randy Phillips said he is                 
  very constituent oriented.  He said he has  had frustrations                 
  in the past with DOT/PF.  Most of the problem has  been with                 
  communications.  Senator Randy Phillips explained that under                 
  Commissioner Turpin,  the  communications  improved  and  he                 
  would  like  to see  that  continue.   Commissioner Designee                 
  Campbell  said  he  hopes communications  will  improve even                 
  more.  He  said he  is basically  a hands-on  person and  he                 
  plans to give  more direct instruction and  leadership.  The                 
  department has many good  people and they need  direction, a                 
  sense of purpose, and a target.                                              
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN SHARP asked  Commissioner Designee  Campbell if  he                 
  has  ever  built  any  new  roads.    COMMISSIONER  DESIGNEE                 
  CAMPBELL said he was  involved in the building of  the Parks                 
  Highway and his wife cut the ribbon on the Dalton Highway.                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN stated that she has worked with Commissioner                 
  Designee  Campbell  in  her  term  on  the  Doyon  Board  of                 
  Directors.  She  said the board  was quite pleased with  his                 
  work.   She asked  Commissioner Designee  Campbell what  his                 
  position is on large scale road projects such as the Bettels                 
  access   road,   the   Copper   River   Highway,   and   the                 
  transportation utility  corridor from the  interior to Nome.                 
  COMMISSIONER  DESIGNEE  CAMPBELL  said  he basically  favors                 
  expanding the  system.   He said  he  feels that  intermodel                 
  transportation is important and is  generally air or highway                 
  traffic.  He explained he favors completing the Copper River                 
  Highway.  He referred to an  access road to Bettles and said                 
  he would  support  if it  serves  a purpose.    Commissioner                 
  Designee said he always  has favored some type of  access to                 
  the Seward Peninsula.                                                        
                                                                               
  Senator Lincoln asked Commissioner Designee  Campbell how he                 
  plans to involve the communities during the planning process                 
  for  major projects.   She said  she has  a concern  in that                 
  there is a state government that plans from the top down and                 
  is not getting involvement from the  people who are going to                 
  be  directly affected  by the  projects  through the  use of                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  fish, wildlife, timber, etc.  Commissioner Designee Campbell                 
  explained that involvement from the communities is the first                 
  step.   It would  be taking an  inventory of all  the human,                 
  natural, mineral, and  consumable resources  in an area  and                 
  making a study  of how they are affected.  One result of the                 
  environmental impact statements  may be that it  is best not                 
  to  build a facility.   The no build  alternative is just as                 
  viable as the  build alternative in the  initial evaluation.                 
  Commissioner Designee Campbell said we  also have to realize                 
  that  any public works feature  that is built has supporters                 
  and  detractors.    Usually  any  public works  facility  is                 
  generally a compromise.  Senator  Lincoln said she thinks  a                 
  step could occur prior to the environmental impact statement                 
  and that is just to go and talk to the people.                               
                                                                               
  Senator Lincoln referred to legislation she  introduced last                 
  session that would require DOT/PF to involve the communities                 
  in  the   planning,  monitoring,  and   the  evaluation   of                 
  construction projects.   She said she considered the bill to                 
  be related to local  hire.  Senator Lincoln said  we need to                 
  work  harder  to  have  more  local  hiring   of  people  on                 
  construction jobs.  Commissioner  Designee Campbell referred                 
  to  the  local  hire  issue  and  said one  thing  that  the                 
  department is  dealing with  is there  has to  be a  certain                 
  level of  skills for  a lot  of the  projects.   He said  he                 
  favors  doing   more  training   and  would   like  training                 
  provisions  in contracts where  a contractor has  to train a                 
  certain amount of local people.                                              
                                                                               
  Senator Lincoln discussed Mr. Campbell being very successful                 
  in litigating against  the state on  highway projects.   She                 
  said  under the  new commissioner,  we won't find  the state                 
  going  into  litigation  so  much.    Commissioner  Designee                 
  Campbell said  he is  sought over  all over  the west  coast                 
  along the lines of  settling contract disputes.  He  said he                 
  is very knowledgeable in that area.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 344                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  ROBIN  TAYLOR  announced  he supports  Commissioner                 
  Designee Campbell's candidacy and strongly recommends him.                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN SHARP said he wishes Commissioner Designee Campbell                 
  well and looks forward to working with him in the future.                    
                                                                               
  There being no  further business to  come before the  Senate                 
  Transportation  Committee,  CHAIRMAN  SHARP   adjourned  the                 
  meeting at 4:10 p.m.                                                         
                                                                               

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